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	<title>Comments on: Yes, I know Astro is out. Seriously.</title>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.benclinkinbeard.com/2008/05/yes-i-know-astro-is-out-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough Glenn but if a site is aimed at a small community what is it doing in an aggregator?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough Glenn but if a site is aimed at a small community what is it doing in an aggregator?</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.benclinkinbeard.com/2008/05/yes-i-know-astro-is-out-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 08:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can&#039;t agree I&#039;m afraid.

that&#039;s the point of using an aggregator, and the reason i tend not to.

many peoples blogs are aimed at small communities with very specific subjects and it&#039;s only at times of major announcements that this problem occurs.

I think it&#039;s a slight over reaction to think that 35 posts talking about such an import release is excessive.

i suppose there were just a lot of excited people out there.

glen williams
tinylion uk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t agree I&#8217;m afraid.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s the point of using an aggregator, and the reason i tend not to.</p>
<p>many peoples blogs are aimed at small communities with very specific subjects and it&#8217;s only at times of major announcements that this problem occurs.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a slight over reaction to think that 35 posts talking about such an import release is excessive.</p>
<p>i suppose there were just a lot of excited people out there.</p>
<p>glen williams<br />
tinylion uk</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.benclinkinbeard.com/2008/05/yes-i-know-astro-is-out-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 03:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John,

Most of the sites didn&#039;t seem to be simple hit-seeking opportunists, but actual bloggers who generally focus on the Adobe ecosystem. For people in that category I think they just need to exercise some self restraint and good judgment. We all like traffic to our sites but I feel like you have to draw the line somewhere.

For the cases that are merely traffic whores, I think maybe a more thorough approval process for getting on the aggregation list could help. I don&#039;t know specifically how sites are evaluated today, and I am sure that is a low priority task within Adobe but I think it could help.

Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>Most of the sites didn&#8217;t seem to be simple hit-seeking opportunists, but actual bloggers who generally focus on the Adobe ecosystem. For people in that category I think they just need to exercise some self restraint and good judgment. We all like traffic to our sites but I feel like you have to draw the line somewhere.</p>
<p>For the cases that are merely traffic whores, I think maybe a more thorough approval process for getting on the aggregation list could help. I don&#8217;t know specifically how sites are evaluated today, and I am sure that is a low priority task within Adobe but I think it could help.</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Quentin</title>
		<link>http://www.benclinkinbeard.com/2008/05/yes-i-know-astro-is-out-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn right.
So, Flash Player 10 is out, huh? Nice, let me blog about this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn right.<br />
So, Flash Player 10 is out, huh? Nice, let me blog about this!</p>
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		<title>By: John Dowdell</title>
		<link>http://www.benclinkinbeard.com/2008/05/yes-i-know-astro-is-out-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-490</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dowdell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. But do you see a way we can improve things?

The downside of an aggregator is that it becomes an attraction for those who seek more attention. If there aren&#039;t feedback mechanisms to penalize words which weren&#039;t worth the reading, then self-promoters will gradually drive out those who are in it for the news value. We&#039;ve seen it happen with Digg, Techmeme, many sites.

But social feedback mechanisms are tricky. On political blogs, for instance, there will be incentive to mod-down competitors, or inconvenient questioners. And those modded-down will naturally want to push back.

I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a solution, but I don&#039;t see it clearly yet. Ideas...?

tx, jd/adobe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. But do you see a way we can improve things?</p>
<p>The downside of an aggregator is that it becomes an attraction for those who seek more attention. If there aren&#8217;t feedback mechanisms to penalize words which weren&#8217;t worth the reading, then self-promoters will gradually drive out those who are in it for the news value. We&#8217;ve seen it happen with Digg, Techmeme, many sites.</p>
<p>But social feedback mechanisms are tricky. On political blogs, for instance, there will be incentive to mod-down competitors, or inconvenient questioners. And those modded-down will naturally want to push back.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a solution, but I don&#8217;t see it clearly yet. Ideas&#8230;?</p>
<p>tx, jd/adobe</p>
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		<title>By: Boubalou</title>
		<link>http://www.benclinkinbeard.com/2008/05/yes-i-know-astro-is-out-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>Boubalou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: senocular</title>
		<link>http://www.benclinkinbeard.com/2008/05/yes-i-know-astro-is-out-seriously/comment-page-1/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>senocular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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